Unlocking Sovereignty: The Ultimate Mindset, Money & Meaning Shift

What we talked about.

This episode of Unlocking Sovereignty follows Sunny Ray's freewheeling conversation with guest Miles, a songwriter turned tech and robotics enthusiast. Miles shares the story behind writing the worship song Spirit Break Out with his friend Luke as a university student, a song that quietly generated a combined 180 to 200 million streams and now funds Mana Collective, a songwriting camp he and his wife run for young gospel writers. The conversation shifts into AI, as Miles unpacks an open source Claude based agent that connects to email, messaging, calendars and to do lists, effectively acting as an autonomous personal assistant with memory and proactive suggestions. He compares its potential impact to Bitcoin and ChatGPT. The talk closes with humanoid robotics, where Miles discusses his role as Director of Humanoid Global in Canada and a friend named Anto, a former Optimus engineer now building Cosmic Brain, software that teaches robots physical skills from video. Together the threads explore passive income, autonomy and where technology may be heading next.

A songwriter behind a 200 million stream worship hit opens up on passive income, AI agents and humanoid robots.

The questions, and the answers.

You mentioned a humble brag earlier, what's the story?

I've got a songwriting camp called Mana Collective that me and my wife host, funded partly by income from a song I wrote. We gather young gospel songwriters at a house on a 10,000 acre estate and break into groups to write new songs. We've run about 12 camps over four or five years, and some of the songs have hit over a million streams.

And to this day you still make royalties from that one song?

Yeah, I wrote Spirit Break Out with my friend Luke about 18 or 19 years ago and it's done a combined 180 to 200 million streams across platforms, mostly Spotify. It generates a reasonable passive income for us. But it's not even a huge song in Christian music terms, it's just been a slow, compounding burn for a long time.

What did the writing process look like, did you just sit down and whip it out?

Two days. We were students at the time and would write songs for fun. We had this idea, tried just the chorus at a student church gathering, and it kicked off, everybody loved it. So we wrote the verses and it progressed from there. A friend who was a popular worship leader started playing it when he traveled and it snowballed organically.

Have you tried recreating that success with other songs?

Definitely, but it's not that easy once people expect another hit. I've written other good songs, but there's no way to guarantee it. There are about 6,000 songs uploaded to Spotify every day now, so it's much harder to make something pop off the way it did back then.

So what actually is this Claude based agent you've been using?

It's open source software you run on your computer that connects to everything, language models, Telegram, WhatsApp, email, your calendar and to do list. I can message it to send an email or summarize my inbox and it just does it. It has memory too, so you drop files in a folder and it understands the context instead of forgetting everything like a normal chatbot.

What do you think breaks first as more people start using this proactively?

AI isn't deterministic, there's always variance in the answer, so it can go haywire on tasks that need precision. People joke about their agent buying a ten thousand dollar course overnight because it decided that was good for them. It's early days, powerful but risky if you're not technical enough to keep an eye on it.

What about Optimus and humanoid robots?

I think this is a step in that direction, full autonomy is the ultimate goal where machines can do physical tasks too, like shoveling snow off my car. I know a guy named Anto who worked with Elon on Optimus and now builds something called Cosmic Brain, which turns video of a human doing a skill into a file you can drop into any of about 200 robots so it can perform that skill.